Monday, November 30, 2009

bin_forgottin: chavez favors insiders...if you arent an insider he takes your property...has nothing to do with whether you follow the laws or create jobs

rebuttal:this is anti chavez propaganda from the opposition and the supporters of fascism..chavez hosts a talk show once a week,and any venezuelan is encouraged to call and voice their grievances.(direct democracy)heres this weeks highligth notice how even his ministers get chastized for not resolving the peoples problems,and mediating the solution...

Venezuela: Alo Presidente has become a school where auto-criticism is openhttp://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=86495

VHeadline News Editor Patrick J. O'Donoghue reports: As President Chavez stated during his 'Alo Presidente' radio show today, the show has become a school. There was plenty of debate and auto-criticism in today's show when the President critiqued Ministers and his close advisers for what he called the "scant availability" not only to take notes but even worse, to follow up petitions and works.VHeadline News Editor Patrick J. O'Donoghue reports: As President Chavez stated during his 'Alo Presidente' radio show today, the show has become a school. There was plenty of debate and auto-criticism in today's show when the President critiqued Ministers and his close advisers for what he called the "scant availability" not only to take notes but even worse, to follow up petitions and works.The President's critique was two-fold: why didn't the Minister meet up with Falcon to discuss the project and why the big difference in assessing costs?
Later, Chavez urged former Lara State Governor and current Minister of the Presidency, Luis Reyes Reyes to concert a move to secure union with current Governor Henry Falcon and warned them that the oligarchy are trying to set them up with rumors of divisions. Another discovery the President made today was to hear members of a local communal council tell him they had to travel to San Cristobal in the border state of Tachira to open their communal bank account with the state Banfoandes bank. The President quizzed Participation Social & Communes Minister Erika Farias about the bureaucracy and told her to start opening accounts in the recently nationalized Banco de Venezuela so that councils have easier access to their funds.Chavez denounced Banfoandes as holding large amounts of State money in private banks and wanted the bank director to get in touch with him. Yesterday, the Council of Economic Ministers met to discuss the situation of the banks and penetration by capitalists masquerading as Bolivarians.Another problem referred to was the fact that, while Chavez appoints ministers, the ministers appoint their own people as vice ministers ... some of whom are not up to the task they are entrusted with.

Ahmadinejad, Chavez vow to counter 'imperialism'http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=35919

.Chavez and Ahmadinejad signed a dozen cooperation agreements in housing, farming, tourism and energy sectors...

Delivery 4 thousand homes built under the Iran-Venezuela Agreementhttp://www.vtv.gob.ve/noticias-económicas/26635

These are not nuclear bombs, but solutions," says the village...Thousands of apartments created by the state in(Cojedes, Guarico, Monagas, and Portuguesa) to develop the intermediate shaft of Venezuela / In two months it is expected delivery 6 thousand homes more / They are subsidized and 20 years to pay very low interest rates / Iran continue to support the program housing"Thank God, Iran is providing a service to the people of Venezuela in joint collaboration of both governments,"The Iranian program to build popular housing developments rose in Calabozo, Guarico, with 2662 units, in Maturin, Monagas, in 2448, in San Carlos, Cojedes, 2448; and Acarigua, Portuguese, 2,448. In each of these states are over one thousand apartments, which were awarded to the poorest. It is estimated that in two months, culminating 6 thousand moreChavez said that this program is a Christian Socialist. "The true Christian said this slogan, not the Pharisees who go there: To each according to his needs and from each according to their abilities. Karl Marx took that of Christianity, because Christianity and socialism go hand in hand."These are not bombs, but solutions through Iran," said the Venezuelan mother"The traitors, those who sold our nation in past to their northern masters they are gone. They are condemned to crawl like snakes for life. Whereas we'll fly like the Eagles, as has Iran since the Islamic Revolution broke out!" He said.

VZLA's reformed Communal Council Law aims to increase participationhttp://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=86371

Venezuelan revolutionaries in 2008 have given a dazzling performancehttp://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=86243

VHeadline commentarist Arthur Shaw writes: According to the proletarian media in Cuba "Venezuelan Finance Minister Ali Rodriguez asserted on Friday [November 20] that placing four banks in administration responds to repeated violations of the homeland and international law, jeopardizing the sector's stability."Administration" is a kind of takeover on entities that doesn't necessarily entail expropriation with payment of fair compensation or confiscation without such compensation ... many options are available in an administration ... Article 116 of the Venezuelan Constitution gives the State the right to confiscate "private property" of natural or legal persons where the source of the property is government corruption or drug trafficking.http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Venezuela#Chapter_V

The Friday press release from Finance Ministry didn't say exactly what the four banks were doing ... but the release makes it clear that the four banks were up to no good.
According to the release and press conference, the four banks -- Canarias, Bolivar, Provivienda, and Confederado -- "did not specify the origin of their funds, after increasing their capitals."

Colombian Senator Piedad Cordoba: "Hugo Chavez is a good human being"http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/interviews/6981-piedad-cordoba-hugo-chavez.html




bin_forgottin: Crook Chavez now needs to steal retailers property to finance his corruption...http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8464741.stm

rebuttal:first of all price gouging is illegal,and speculation are crimes against the consumer and people of venezuela.whats more absurd is that this transnational food chain would pull this after president gave tv warning to business's not to dare attempt to rip people off for 2 weeks now.adding 50% proce hikes on top of retail is criminal and illegal,the state intervened,just like it intervened when banks were caugth mishandling public funds and misappropriating the peoples money. heres whats going on...Venezuela closes 619 retail stores for price-gouginghttp://en.apa.az/news.php?id=113978

Baku – APA-ECONOMICS. Venezuela has temporarily shuttered 619 retail stores for price-gouging in the wake of the devaluation of the country’s currency last week, official news agency ABN says.
"Many of the store owners had hiked their prices up to 80 per cent," said Public Defense Institute director Valentina Querales on Thursday.
She said about 1,000 shops were inspected this week to make sure their prices were fair, adding that 619 were closed down.
In addition to being shuttered, the shops accused of speculation must also pay a fine.
On Monday, when the devaluation of the bolivar kicked in, the government closed 70 stores for price-gouging, including the supermarket Caracas, owned by the French-Colombian Exito group.
On Friday, Chavez announced the bolivar would trade at 4.30 to the US dollar for "non-essential" goods - double the previous rate - and a rate of 2.60 bolivars against the dollar for basic goods.
The Venezuelan leader had warned on Sunday that any price speculation by shopkeepers would trigger business seizures, and called on the National Guard to help people fight price hikes.
"To those gentlemen, let’s call them looters of the people... if they want to, go ahead and do it, but we’ll take their business and hand them over to the workers," Chavez said on his weekly radio and TV talk show Alo Presidente.
The announcement sent crowds of shoppers to the stores to buy what they could at the old prices.
The bolivar devaluation was the first since 2005, and was designed in part to bolster public finances that have withered amid dwindling oil revenues and a rapidly contracting economy.
Critics said the move would allow Chavez to boost public spending ahead of elections in September but would severely damage the health of the economy.
Since coming to office, Chavez has sought to remake the Venezuelan economy, vowing to create a more equitable, socialist system.
He has initiated a string of nationalisations of foreign firms and banks, as well as measures that have sent inflation soaring to 25 per cent - the highest in Latin America.
The largest oil producer in South America, Venezuela slipped into a recession in 2009 for the first time in six years due to a drop in oil prices and production. AFP

President Chávez takes Almacenes Exito to the  Woodshedhttp://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_58159.shtml

President Chávez takes Almacenes Exito to the  Woodshedhttp://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_58159.shtmland engaged in price-gouging on food over the last decade is a shot across the bow and a full frontal attack on the speculators. Almost immediately after the government devalued the Bolivar, the "hypermercado", Exito responded by increasing its prices by 50% and in some cases, doubling their prices on everything from food to laundry detergent. Soon after, Exito stores were occupied by the Venezuelan Guardia Nacionál and shut down from Zulia on the Colombian border to Caracas.

In his brilliant, annual State of the Nation speech to the Assembleia Nacionál (Congress) last week, he said the devaluation will be followed with a robust attack on speculation in the markets. 2 days later he began to keep his word. My personal hope is that when the government buys out Almacenes Exito that they'll pay them for their corporation not in cash, but in government bonds. In practical terms, the nationalization of Almacenes Exito means the provision of affordable food for Venezuelans. All other supermercados in the country have got to be watching this closely and reviewing the price tags they place on food. Seller beware!

Chavez: New dollar adjustment does not mean rising prices for productshttp://www.telesurtv.net/noticias/secciones/nota/64911-NN/chavez-nuevo-ajuste-del-dolar-no-implica-aumento-de-precios-de-productos/

We will not accept price increases as a result of exchange controls, "Chavez said during his usual Sunday program"I call (traders) to not do so, and do not let the people steal. There is no reason at this time for increased speculation

 and we will intervene any business of any size that lends itself to speculative oligarchy, "he added.He warned that businesses that engage in speculative activities will be expropriated and "we're going to give workers, the people,"added the Venezuelan president and reiterated his request for support to the organized community to "identify where the 'plusvcuálido' and do so with great maturity 

because it is not take the business to someone just because. We must denounce the stealing of truth. "Chavez said Saturday that the measures announced in the economic field "are taken in time, are just and necessary", which is why said "the government protects the weak,protect and safeguard the Venezuelan people, the popular sectors with investments, with special attention, food, health, all that remains against the dollar to 2.60.

The president said that the actions announced last Friday "are all steps in the short and medium term to enhance the national economy will boost national productivity", ", while ratifying the Venezuelans will begin to consume more goods made in the country .

Commerce Minister warns private sector not to cash in on public panichttp://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=87644

Devaluation: United States will likely suffer from loss of exports to Venezuelahttp://www.miamiherald.com/business/story/1420074.html

Devaluation: Oil contribution doubles; higher revenues offset fall in tax collectionhttp://english.eluniversal.com/2010/01/11/en_eco_esp_oil-contribution-dou_11A3273651.shtml

The additional income will be used, among other purposes, to increase the bicentennial fund, which was created to promote exports and for import substitution.

Venezuela's devaluation will cost some United States companies.http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1115806520100111

bin_forgottin: amusing to see these tinhorn dictators claim they are helping the masses by stealing private property...lol

bin_forgottin: Career military officer, Chávez founded the left-wing Fifth Republic Movement after orchestrating a FAILED 1992 coup d'état against former President Carlos Andrés
bin_forgottin: Pérez....14 killed and 130 injured….Why didnt he pay the price?

rebuttal:he didnt pay price because he fled to miami and wa sgranted asylum,had the dummy known about what he commented on i wouldnt have to school him,after all how do u mention and incident and not know the outcome?heres what happened...

In 1998, he was imprisoned again, this time for holding joint bank accounts with his mistress, Cecilia Matos. As he was elected Senator of the State of Táchira in 1998, he gained his liberty. Pérez lost this position when Chávez dissolved the Senate as an institution and created a unique National Assembly. He then left Venezuela and went into exile in Miami. He has since gained notoriety by being one of the most vehement opposers of President Hugo Chávez.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Andrés_Pérez

bin_forgottin: Re Israel & Turkeyhttp://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100118_israel_turkey_and_low_seats?utm_source=GWeekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=100118&utm_content=readmore

rebuttal:how sad bin is now posting from stratfor site wich ahs zero credibility see for yourself...

Stratforhttp://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Stratfor

Stratfor - which is also known as Strategic Forecasting, Inc. - is a private company that provides strategic and issues management intelligence analysis to corporations and governments.

The company, founded in 1996, is based in Austin, Texas and boasts that it has "an intelligence network located throughout the world."

"Stratfor is the world's leading private intelligence firm providing corporations, governments and individuals with geopolitical analysis and forecasts that enable them to manage risk and to anticipate political, economic and security issues vital to their interests," it states on its website. [1]

Al Giordano [2], details what he calls "20 Stratfor Lies about Latin America":
Stratfor is one of these snake-oil disinfo sales firms that traffics in "intelligence briefings" for people gullible enough to pay for them. Imagine that: you can get lied to for free all over this great land, but some people actually pay to be deceived!
Stratfor's track record in Latin America is abhorrent (how many years in a row did it predict that Hugo Chavez would not survive that year as Venezuela's president?). It's "spin" is ideological: pro-corporate, which is no surprise, given that it's undisclosed clientele purchases something called "Business Intelligence Services."
In my opinion, Stratfor engages in circulating disinformation into the datasphere through its free and paid email memos in ways that seem aimed to help the agendas of that very same corporate world that contracts its services.

In March 2004, Bart Mongoven from Stratfor's Washington D.C. office appeared on a panel - Strategies for Dealing with Environmental Litigation - at the National Petrochemical and Refiners Association annual meeting in San Antonio, Texas. (Also appearing on the panel were Marc Sisk, Dorsey & Whitney, Washington, DC and Stephen Brown from The Dutko Group LLC). [3]

Mongoven warned industry leaders about the increasing collaboration between environmental groups and patients groups on the issue of exposure to chemicals. Washington D.C. trade magazine, Inside EPA, reported Mongoven told the NPRA that "in five years, the environmental community would like to see all debates [be about] the environment and health." Mongoven nominated Collaborative on Health and the Environment as an example of the new approach.[4]

According to Inside EPA, Mongoven said that the collaboration was broadening the debate beyond exposure to pesticides to the health impacts of industrial emissions. According to Inside EPA, he suggested that one option for industry to counter this development was to dismiss advocates stated public health goal and instead portray them as being "anti-chemical".










bin_forgottin: Artist....The world is fragmented and few of them trust each other...And the US is so powerful they are afraid

rebuttal:the simpleton having no grasp of whats ocurring outside his own backyard ignorantly thinks would i sitting around too afraid to organize itself and build alliances. heres  afew examples

South American leaders launch new alliance Unasurhttp://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/south-american-leaders-launch-new-alliance-unasur_10052145.html

ALBA Summit Creates New Model for Latin American Integrationhttp://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/2362

Summit of South America - Arab Countrieshttp://www.qatar-conferences.org/south/english/news_website_details.php?id=36

South American-Arab summit aims to undercut US influencehttp://app1.chinadaily.com.cn/star/2005/0512/cn11-2.html

Bank of the South - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_the_South

China and Brazil: Dump the Dollar - BusinessWeekhttp://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/blog/eyeonasia/archives/2009/05/it_is_just_the.html

Abandoned U.S. Dollar and Paradigm Shifthttp://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article12253.html

Mercosur Dumps U.S. Economic Lunacyhttp://www.larouchepub.com/other/2006/3331mercosur_v_us.html

Communists of the world unite against capitalismhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Communists-of-the-world-unite-against-capitalism/articleshow/5259116.cms

Capitalist Collapse http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/1998/1198kotz.html

Venezuela Bolivariana: People and Struggle of the Fourth World Warhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1797179074001054188&ei=KgYUS6-ZCsSXlAfgh-2zDg&q=world+against+capitalism&hl=en&client=opera

Tuesday, November 24, 2009

bin_forgottin: Palo...The Zionist Movement didnt start until the internal combustion engine was invented...I say they are related.

rebuttal:actually zionist or the idea of a jewish state ges back to brittain as early as 1600's around time of cromwell.

http://christianactionforisrael.org/4thcongress2.html

The rise of Israel: a history of a revolutionary state By Jonathan R. Adelmanhttp://books.google.com/books?id=NNF7GPdO8zQC&pg=PT208&lpg=PT208&dq=oliver+cromwell+puritan+brittish+israel&source=bl&ots=RreOHjbPQ2&sig=37PwnF8Xb6dTaETBM9BcAg3cZyg&hl=en&ei=R-DDSuCrH8zPlAfXrajIBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=&f=false

...during the english revolution,the Puritans,led by Oliver Cromwell,were sympathetic to the hebraic idealism of the bible and jewish suffering,and hoped to fullfill a prophecy of a jewish restoration of a jewish homeland in palestine.

Other books from this period detailing the theory were Ezra Stiles' The United States elevated to Glory and Honorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_United_States_elevated_to_Glory_and_Honor, published in 1783, and Richard Brothers' A Revealed Knowledge of the Prophecies and Timeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Revealed_Knowledge_of_the_Prophecies_and_Times, published in 1794. Also cited as an original work is Rev. John Wilson's Our Israelitish Origins which was originally published during the 1840s

A REVEALED KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPHECIES AND TIMES, Book the First, wrote [sic] under the direction of the LORD GOD and published by His Sacred Command, it being the first sign of Warning for the benefit of All Nations; Containing with other great and remarkable things not revealed to any other Person on Earth, the Restoration of the Hebrews to Jerusalem by the year of 1798 under their revealed Prince and Prophet (i.e., Richard Brothers). London, Printed in the year of Christ 1794.

Lovers of Zion: A Brief History of Christian Zionismhttp://www.zionism-israel.com/christian_zionism/Christian_Zionism_History_Ice.html

bin_forgottin: Palo...I know in fact has many of the stereotypical faults that many residents in that US Ally who is located in the Eastern Mediterranean Nation have\

rebuttal:he cant even type in his own motehr tongue,i have no idea what the retard is saying

paloma.liberal: Bin .. but better for the arabs to live under the Saudi royal family 

bin_forgottin: Palo....If ahmadi nejad is really working for the West.....He needs to give them reason to invade

bin_forgottin: Palo...Since the Palestinians have been abandoned by the Arab Nations....What other choice do they have?

rebuttal:first palo the retard who in past said that saud family should rule yemen(even though shes supposedly yemeni)now admits she wants saud family to rule over all arabs.now as far as bin retarded is concerned ...notice he claims if that if iran gives west  areason to attack hes working with them..in other words if iran resists western domination and agressions(wich it has)such as switching from dollar to euro,challenging us hegemony in region,and refusing to allow west to dictate its technological capabilities(pursuit of nuclear program for peaceful purposes)then it is aligned with west?just nonsense ,bin is a moron,in otehr words if they bowed down to west they would be true enemies and if they resist west then they are allies.lol bin has just turned logic on its head.next

Monday, November 23, 2009

bin_forgottin: Iraq is completely controlled by the US....Not one Iraqi is allowed to work in Banking

rebuttal: heres a few examples refuting his claim

http://www.cpa-iraq.org/economy/iraq_private_banks.html

Al-Warka Investment Bank Sabri Shammas 
warkabank@hotmail.com 360-4286
Babylon Bank Abdul Razzak Mansour Saliman 
Bank of Baghdad Mowafaq H. Mahmood
bankdad@uruklink.net 822-7083
Commercial Bank of Iraq Saddoun Kubba
commerce@uruklink.net 360-4188
Credit Bank of Iraq
Details in: English Fouad M. Mustafa
creditbkiq@yahoo.com 360-0494
Dar Es Salaam Investment Bank
Details in: English | Arabic Asad al-Khudhairy
asadalkhudhairy@yahoo.com 360-4646
Gulf Commercial Bank Mudher Mustafa Al-Hillawi
Gulfbank1@yahoo.com 360-4241
Investment Bank of Iraq Abbas Hadi Al-Bayaty
investmentiraq@yahoo.com 360-4243
Iraqi Middle East Investment Bank Abdul Razzak M. Ali 360-4242
National Bank of Iraq Ghassan Kamal Jamil
nationalbank_iraq@yahoo.com 360-2345

select the Union of Arab Banks, on 19 and 20 of the month of November as the date for Anaaked Annual Arab Banking Conference for 2009 in the Lebanese capital Beirut.

A statement of the Federation received by the independent press (Iba) today, Sunday, a copy of the conference will be held in cooperation with the International Union of Arab Bankers and a number of regional and international organizations under the banner of inter-Arab investment in light of an emerging global economic system.

He added that the conference will be under the auspices of the official participation of the heads of the Councils of Ministers and Ministers of Finance and Economy in the Arab world and central bank governors and senior officials of financial institutions and Arab and international banking. 

The Union held during the days, the ongoing annual forum for the commitment and risk management under the theme "approach to the Basel Committee proposals for the new 2009" attended by directors and managers of risk management, credit risk management and directors and managers of units to combat money laundering.


http://www.ipairaq.com/index.php?nam...onomy&id=16018


Sunday, November 22, 2009

bin_forgottin: albertusmagnus51: = Moron doesnt even know the definition of Socialism...Yet claims he is a socialist...That is what you are dealing with...A total fraud

rebuttal:there are many types of socialism not one,moron(bin)secpondly i never claimed im a socialist,i have said i accept some forms of socialism as practiced in venezuela ,and have fully exposed fabian socialism wich is liberal imperialism,liberal fascism and advocates of earlier brittish policies like social darwnism

Social Darwinism
The Development of an Intellectual Mood
http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/library/lra-socialdarwinism.html

Fabian Society (socialist society) -- Britannica Online Encyclopediahttp://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/199691/Fabian-Society

In 1931 the New Fabian Research Bureau was established as an independent body. The bureauand the society amalgamated in 1938 to form a new and revitalized Fabian Society. In 1940 the Colonial Bureau of the Fabian Society was established, and it produced a continuous stream of discussion and writing on colonial questions. The Fabian International Bureau was started in 1941 to cater to the growing concern of Fabians with foreign policy and the great issues of war and peace.



Types of socialismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_socialism1 Early interpretations
2 Marxism and Communism 
2.1 Marxism-Leninism and Stalinism 
2.1.1 Maoism
2.2 Other types of Communism
3 Libertarian socialism and Social anarchism
4 Democratic socialism and social democracy
5 Religious socialism 
5.1 Religious communism
5.2 Christian socialism
5.3 Islamic socialism
6 Regional or ethnic socialism 
6.1 African socialism
6.2 Arab socialism
6.3 Labor Zionism
6.4 Irish Republican socialism
7 Eco-socialism
8 Differences between various schools 
8.1 Theory
8.2 Implementation
9 Controversial classifications 
9.1 National Socialism (Nazism)
10 See also
11 References
12 Further reading
13 External links 
13.1 Socialist perspective



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